Just making a silly comment, dont take it personally!!! They were careful to say that we could save up to a certain percentage, I cant remember what it was. i think its funny, drive wise tracks me when i move my car to cut grass under it, or when i take my garbage to the road, or get my mail. Many users of the device are only looking at percentages. Pretty sure the posted speed limit is 5, so. I am an Allstate insurance agent and I can tell you that to start off for the drivewise discount is only 15% for the first 6 months. A passenger better feels how gently a vehicle comes to a stop than the driver whos using both arms to brace against the wheel. As far as being monitored for driving habits, I have no problem voluntarily putting devices on our automobiles so our insurance company can reduce our rates as a reward for driving under certain speeds, at safer times, and at speeds that dont necessitate hard braking. Discover coverage thats broader than competitors, valuable discounts up to 30% off and perks like shrinking deductibles that reward no claims. More interested in whatever savings. Drivewise is a con and I suspect the only reason they have it is to track your driving and change your premiums accordingly. We received a message showing our discount that was 29% on 1 & 10% on the other. I drive like a 15 year old person with a beginners permit. Well, I just left Geico cause they misled me when I switched from Hatford several years ago. As my agent said, the program is new and there are still lots of bugs to be worked out. Im kindve annoyed about something, and I need to get it off my chest. It was ok years ago then they changed the programming that suddenly created false driving events on all 3 of my vehicles. Allsate explains a hard break as any time during a break, your speed is reduced by 8 miles per second or greater. Dont even get me started on the 7% one. Allstate offers many different policies that dont charge you extra to give you a discount or bonus driving check. Please contact me by e-mail ( i took out her number n email)(use 1 877 431 7670 to call drivewise) within 48 hours if you have any questions. And, we are a government facility for gosh sakes! relation between frequency and length of antenna. Ive never met someone that is mad to save money. While we are independent, the offers that appear on this site are from companies from which finder.com receives compensation. 15 days ago. Ive read too many comments against big brother and against the accuracy of this Drivewise device. Lol. My husband alternates between afternoons and midnights and is penalized for driving to work or home from work as there is much less traffic on the road but yet it isnt in their drive time window. 12 seconds at speeds up to 60 mph means a driver can judge how long that green light ahead has been glowing during approach. Am I thankful for the 11%? I originally got the 10% sign up bonus. One in a 2011 Camry and the other in a 1998 4Runner. i expire on the 20th n my new policy kicks in after that so ill know more then. This data collected will be used to rate your insurability. Every morning Im going 82-85 in the center lane and Im always being passed. I have not qualms whatsoever of the service that I have received from Allstate, however, I have continuously watched my rates go up in the last year every 6 months. We are not affiliated with any one insurance company and cannot guarantee quotes from any single insurance company. I mean who wouldnt want the lousy 3% discount from allstate all because you work for a police department and work afternoons. considering it does not harm your bill why is everyone so quick to complain. We dont use this type of discount service although we are with Allstate as well. WE HAVE NO- FAULT (THE ONLY STATE IN THE NATION, AND THAT DRIVES THE RATES TO BE VERY HIGH) AND AN UNLIMITED PERSONAL INJURY PROTECTION (pip) COVERAGE WITH NO CAP NOT EVEN A $10 MILLION DOLLAR CAP. Posted on . a dog run out in front of you?? That being said, since I drive very little and also have a motorcycle on my insurance, I can ride that all I want (no Drivewise, obviously) and drive my other vehicles in the mornings or all I want on the weekend (which is considered lowest risk). I paid my policy in full, was mistake #1, In October my Allstate coverage increased by 89.00, I called to get an explanation, to call this a customer service department would be a LIE! I wish I had come to this site before made the HUGE mistake of switching my auto insurance and bundling it with Allstate. So basically I told him well I dont need it then as I stated previously I changed companies and it dropped it by just over $1000. Automatic 10% discount: Earn a 10% discount against your auto insurance policy just by signing up for Drivewise. At Bankrate, we strive to help you make smarter financial decisions. She refused to call Allstate to have the wrong ones removed. LOL at If something unavoidable happens, as a later post mentioned, Drivewise is happy to help. My wife is constantly downgraded because she does all of her driving during the morning and evening rush hours. anyway, my year is up this month. Consider: Two identical coverage, standard car insurance policies (containing collision and comprehensive), where the premiums do not involve any telematics monitoring scheme and are calculated using conventional base rates. Like I said no moving violations on my part for over 20 years. Dont get the Allstate DriveWise device. You used to be to do this online but now only through the app unless Im missing something. I was given the so called 10% discount initially, however after opting out of the program I was sent a bill that essentially removed the so called 10% discount. A small plugin device and the app monitors your driving habits. That make no sense to me. Im also on Drive wise. Maybe if they shortened the moderate time I would, but otherwise no. Ends up Geico has higher customer satisfaction at 1/2 the price. (In this case the check is NOT in the mail!) Thats how the world works, but it doesnt mean it makes sense. Speeds over 80 mph. Okay, diss Drivewise, but unless you understand technology dont expect anyone to believe the seat of your pants proclamations. It gives to the insurance a powerful mechanism to reduce all claims for good driving on basis of non-measurable parameter. Our policy renewed and it went up for what reason I dont know. it only detects over 80 mph. The older I get the more benefits and save money Ill have. Dont unplug it while your are driving because an instant stop at any speed is going to register as a nasty hard brake. This policy is defective, especially if you live in areas where you have roads with 50 mph and traffic lights on them. How could that be? While our one car is rated A+ in three categories, we are rated a C- overall because of the number of miles driven. Example, hard braking may register if you drive a manual auto. haha. If you arent sold on Drivewise, some other alternatives would be Geico DriveEasy or Progressive Snapshot, but there are many car insurance companies out there that offer telematics programs. I have Drivewise and here is how it works (unless it differs from state to state): every 6 months your Drivewise device is graded, and you get a reward depending on your grade. The mobile app collects all kinds of data but Drivewise weighs the follow three factors most heavily: Time of day: Whether you drive in clear, optimal driving conditions or at night with reduced visibility. @ 17% you are doing really well, in my experience the overall mileage the car is driven is the single biggest factor in the drivewise discount. No driving in the high risk slot , no braking incidents , and no speeds over 80. If you're the picture-perfect driver, a bad driver in your household can compromise your potential savings. The Drivewise may prescribe any number of braking events and drivers cannot dispute this because there is no indicators on their side that can be monitoring by them. Ive loaded your blog in 3 completely different browsers and I I appreciate the opportunity to read everyones thoughts. I live on a steep hill and have to go through 3 stop signs. Why would they participate in a program like this ? Drivewise is distressingly incorrect at times and a source of extreme consternation among drivers due to the braking issue. i dont understand why you started at 7%. Misled me intentionally. My car was stuck in my driveway because of teh heavy snow for 3 days. Mr. flat car tire wheel, Would you post a list of all of all your social community pages like Many agents (not just Allstate) are more concerned with the short term business on the books and will do just about anything to keep it on, even if it means irate customers in 6 months to a year. 139. ok, they now tell me braking will come off so no more brake events, only time of day, distance n speed. This is no scam. This unit under my dash has me thinking about it all the time. Interesting, I have Allstate as well and have not heard of this program. But is it worth the trouble? its only a 32 dollar discount anyway.. ill still have the 10% epolicy. Weve maintained this reputation for over four decades by demystifying the financial decision-making If you remove/opt out the 10% of your vehicle premium will be added back into your premium. I stayed with them but rates creeping up just too much for the amount of driving I do. Coverage.com may not offer insurance coverage in all states or scenarios. SmartFinancial Insurance is a digital insurance Amounts added to the HSA depend on how many factors you pass. At the beginning, I got a 10% (NOT 30%) refund. Available in most states (double-check with your Allstate insurance agent). Available to non-Allstate customers: If you're not a current Allstate customer, you can still sign up and earn points to redeem certain rewards. I should have switched years ago, I couldnt help but laugh at this article. Or would you rather leave allstate and take over a 50% discount as the rates are so much cheaperthats easy buh bye allstate and Drivewise!!!!!! dont call your agent, call drivewise first. MONTHS. As long as the email is accepted, and the device is plugged in and reporting, you will keep that discount. Im not coming at anyone but all insurance companies raise rates based on claimsweather they are yours or not, credit, experience and so on. this post may contain references to products from our partners. Ok, heres the latest for me. Sounds awful. Here in NY , the device was used until a month or so ago when the app was also approved. Seems like there are limits to what this technology can understand, as it has no context for any driving event. Ive been saying this for years. If you don't save any money with the program, you should be able to opt-out again . Also maybe you should read over what you type. It appeared that Allstate updated the device to be more sensitive and provide many more false braking events. Other factors, such as our own proprietary website rules and whether a product is offered in your area or at your self-selected credit score range can also impact how and where products appear on this site. Tina,,,,, if it started at 7% call n complain. ever have a deer suddenly jump in front of you?? That means no risky unwanted side effects plus Allstate Drivewise is a usage-based insurance program that tracks drivers with a mobile app and rewards them with rewards and a semi-annual rebate for safe driving habits. I told him that I will do my research before changing my insurance from Geico. I just think that having a braking episode every three months sounds about right. Im not willing to part with the details of my driving habits (who knows what else theyre tracking but not disclosing) for the sake of a few bucks. anyway, my new policy starts at midnight, ill talk to allstate tomorrow again, im going to cancel drivewise before it drives me insane.. lol Extreme braking: Sudden braking may suggest that you're speeding and need to brake abruptly to compensate. Today I was cleaning out files and noticed some premium estimates from Allstate from 2012. I am in SHOCK. drivewise doesnt consider regular driving on ice or snow or or even in the summer when your car is cut off or the car in front crams on its breaks. Someone hit me while I was sitting at a red light. At the very least it would be nice if they were up front about all of this. I am certain that Allstate set it that way so you dont get the max discount. Since I know that most of the clients we work with are not likely to return the device I dont even recommend the program. My wife and I just received the Drivewise modules in the mail after recently switching to Allstate. Safe drivers can qualify for car insurance savings when they join one of Allstate's rewards programs. I have a discount of 19%. But for low-mileage drivers, paying a base rate plus a per-mile rate based on your individual rating factors can wind up costing you less than a traditional policy. Before anyone thinks Im mindlessly attacking someone theres reason I say zero chance. To avoid this and mine happened when I stopped or was backing out of a space, you have to gently brake and slowly back, even if you dont brake hard it registers as if you did. Comparison shopping should be easy. When comparing offers or services, verify relevant information with the institution or provider's site. Kelly, i think you need to read thru all of the posts. Allstate Drivewise and Milewise both measure data but they are functionally different. im wondering if the person i talk to at drivewise cant get an answer either. Enter your ZIP code to see insurers near you. The home side is a little weird because they outsource that, but I liked the car insurance. Cancelled policy went with Allstate back to $600.00 for six month period. so you can trust that were putting your interests first. The insurance industry is always on the lookout for new information to use in their rating. Its getting to me, even commenting on my BFs driving, -comments like that would have been a hard braking event, when it was necessary to avoid other careless drivers that squeeze and rush in w/o signaling, errrr. But how can you argue with a device? I also instructed them on driving through yards to avoid backing up. She has adjusted my rating Mileage B Braking A Time of Day C Speed B now 8% discount? Save on auto insurance with quotes from trusted providers like: Drivers switch & save an average of $750+/year. You can go out in the morning but if you try to come back home after lunch, they use that to lower your discount! 1.) A small plugin device and the app monitors your driving habits. I switched my auto coverage in August trying to reduce my auto insurance due to the increase with my previous plan to save money. I tried to ge the car out by rocking it using the brakes and going back and forth. It gives to the insurance more profits and robs customers. if you disconnect it your percent for the second 6 months is 15 percent. utilizing? Why any of you should care, Ive been an Allstate agent pushing 20 years now. If you frequently drive between the hours of 11 p.m. and 4 a.m. you may be a higher-risk driver, since nighttime driving can be more hazardous. Otherwise be happy you are getting a discount. it goes by your speedometer,, miles per hour up or down. The Allstate Drivewise app pulls data about driving behaviors, including when you drive, how hard you brake and how fast you drive. they promote unsafe driving with the drivewise. im beginning to wish i knew the real story, do i keep the gadget for 6 months then it goes back or what? Taking your story at face value that you did nothing wrong and your rates went up. If this is in fact not Allstate's position I would like to suggest they reign in their local agents because after these two issues, issues I have not had with any other insurance company we are now taking our business elsewhere. i used geico for over 20 years. This program is a scam! highly qualified professionals and edited by Drivewise is not going to give you love but few $$$. How much should you contribute to your 401(k)? Apparently, there is a lot of confusion. Once youre approved, simply install the device and begin driving. The driver who has a better chance of getting in an accident isnt a new driver thats only been driving a year. While the company doesnt sell your information, it may share it with its affiliates, agents, partners, vendors and law enforcement. I am concerned about the speed I typically drive and also that the penalty could be far worse than losing the discount how do we know they wont use our driving information to justify higher rates in addition to not qualifying for the Drivewise discount? Bankrate has answers. My only real issues are time of driving because I work 3rd shift. Wow, does anyone here drive near traffic intersection cameras? Just avoid drivewise all together. i cant believe i have a thing hanging in my truck that no one knows what it is or how it works Our editors and reporters thoroughly fact-check editorial content to ensure the information youre reading is accurate. I told the Drivewise rep that my car didnt move and I got hit with 6 hard braking events. Allstate! She is the co-founder of Club Thrifty, co-author of the book Zero Down Your Debt, and is recognized as one of the top credit card experts in the field. I like Progressive. I emailed back n told her i think drivewise forgot about me n asked if this is an automated email. Logical? This program is a dirty trick. This Drivewise program is bogus. They said I cancelled the device April 19th which was 11 days before my Allstate Insurance was renewed. Then when driving no the snow and ice covered roads, my ABS kicked in a couple times entering a couple more extreme breaking events. The latter seems to be a major factor and now requires a balance between safest , low risk , and moderate risk time zones , with an emphasis on the safest zone (5:00am 11:00pm weekends). My husband didnt have a single A in any category but has an overall higher score than me with an 8% bonus at the moment. My drivewise 'rewards' is very low if anything at all and our car rates are going up. via drinking a glass of water every now and then. With increasing numbers of vehicles on the roadways, accident reconstruction will depend on recorded data. I was curious if you ever considered changing the layout of your site? Apparently, I had a braking episode. wait n see i guess.. So whos laughing now? about drivewise. And they had a website similar to Allstates, I could login and it told me when we were driving, and if we had any hard breaks. Can you suggest a good web hosting provider at a fair price? Because of many people like me (baby boomer), the near future may bring about more medical event related traffic accidents. For drivers who commute or enjoy road-tripping, a usage-based policy isnt going to save you money. They found out that you were more likely to be involved in an accident when driving during certain period of the day (mostly at night). I could have purchased a couple of Mercedes with the money I paid to Allstate and their overpriced insurance. And no accidents until the last 4 years when I was rear ended 3 times, and someone ran into the side of my car, when I was stopped for a traffic light. In reality discounts are of secondary importance a sideshow. i havnt had the nerve to tell her no. i think it would be rude to remove it n still have drivewise finding out all this crap In reality, this is full datalogger that communicates directly with your vehicle computer over a CANbus network. Putting on your brakes harder than usual is to avoid an accident but they use that to lower your discountNow thats just moronic! When I signed up it allows me to save 15% the first few months but the projected shows 0% savings not because Im driving badly but because of the amount I drive. right now i think they are waiting me out to see if i send the gadget back before they can come up with an answer.. However, Truelane is even worse. Holly!!! Not to mention the insurance commissioner allowing something like that is ludicrous. Allstate has provided every excuse from repair shop isn't listed as preferred supplier, even though Allstate provided me with the shop contacts to billing issues with subcontractors with the shop. Lots of misconceptions in the original article and comments. But NOBODY can distinguish deceleration less than 13 km/h in a second from deceleration of 14 km/h in a second. It means instead of receiving up to a 30% discount you may simply receive 0% for that 6 mo. Drive wise got me very angry too. The safe driver discount I (used) to get was for not having any tickets or being involved in any accidents. Our editorial team receives no direct compensation from advertisers, and our content is thoroughly fact-checked to ensure accuracy. is it really worth????? What is so hard to understanding the up to part. All the customer service reps and their managers are ignorant. I have been on the drive wise program for about 4&1/2 months. Why hadnt I changed companies and been saving?! Our goal is to be an objective, third-party resource for everything insurance related. Its not like I had road rage or anything. In reading all of these posts I will clarify a few things, both as an Allstate Agent and customer Try not to plant your car too closely to the car before you, in case you are rear-ended while stopped. Not only have I been insured by Allstate for the last 12+ years (so longevity means absolutely nothing), but I am an experienced driver (32 years), I havent had any accidents since I first got my license at 16, except 1 break-in and at park n ride (beyond my control) and 2 rear-enders who rear ended me about 10+ years ago (knock on wood), I havent had any moving violations, yet my insurance rates continue to rise ($8 $12 per half). I still have 9 hard braking events and my wife has 14she said that a few were bogus, as her car was not driven upon a couple days when events were recorded. Speak to an agent: Quotes and offers are not binding, nor a guarantee of coverage. It can also re-flash and update its firmware over-the-air, so it can change its capability at any time. EXTREME HARD BRAKING is 10-12 MPH in one second. We are still working to apply the 14% discount to your policy. Advertiser Disclosure: We strive to help you make confident insurance decisions. Its the mileage thats killing your discount. We had allstate 15 years ago and dropped them because they raised the rates slowly over the competition and I will check to see if they are doing it again. Allstate encourages people to A not work or B not drive ever. 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Who I have on my insurance and who I am paying for or not paying for is my business and my business alone, not Allstate's. My agent stated it was all of Michigan that went up and yes that allstate could not compete. The mobile app is compatible with iPhone iOS 13.0 or higher and Android 8.0 or higher. Laura Walkergraduated college with a BS in Criminal Justice with a minor in Political Science. A lot of people who posted are not aware that Allstate can use the time and date if the event to help determine fault if you have an accident. Their reviews hold us accountable for publishing high-quality and trustworthy content. and 6P.M. We do a lot of coasting in my husbands Prius! Furthermore, if you are driving 80 mph or faster you take a hit as well. From the day we signed up it never moved from 7%. This program allows you to save up to 30% every 6 mo. you must never drive in traffic. Drivers who do not have auto insurance with Allstate can still earn rewards points for using the app and exhibiting safe driving behavior. Also if you live in an area where there is ice and snow dont ever get stuck even if in your own driveway as you will get numerous hard braking incidents for that too. Insurance Disclosure. My policy did not go up after the 1st 6 months. Not to mention the other drivers attorney in a civil action. tom. Its just our second car, which is rarely driven. It is the worst thing that I can do myself using drivewise. Should you accept an early retirement offer? Hey Daniel, endobj But insurers like this misconception; they can sell on it by inflating or implying the role of discounts. They said that I would save 30 percent but I signed up over the phone so it may have been a miscommunication. 3 0 obj Give them a call. So how can you safely break going 35 miles per hour and a traffic light takes only 4 seconds to change from green to yellow to red? how would you like to pay 1/2 the amount without the hassle of drivewise or the other false advertising that Allstate does? he said other people say that too n complain alot, thats why braking is coming off. No matter what shift a person works, they have to drive during that time too. They will have me scenarios on how they are not liable for the damages. My experience with the agent that handled my uninsured Motorist bodily injury claim. lol, if you get runned over ill pick you up n stick you back together just so you can write more.. Appreciate this thread. In short, its lousy that the discount was poorly explained to you, but look at the bright side you are getting a 17% discount you didnt have before and its because of how well you drive. Not so sure. You all are idiots. Most driving I do is during the week with little on weekends.